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obama in his first offer to congress proposed some slight, you know, stimulative measures. republicans immediately scoffed at it and dismissed it. skeptical we'll have much in the way of stimulus if and when they strike an agreement here. can we look outside of the government and congress and see any other possible sources of stimulus for this economy in the near ferm? >> steve, i like the humor around the group, and i think it's a slightly schizophrenic time. i think one can be deeply worried about the compression of growth, the collapse of inflation, and the possible revival of 1930s style policies around the world. that's deeply worrying. on the other hand, i think there is some space to be slightly optimistic that we're opening up opportunities for what i call a pivot to inhe flags both here in the united states and around the world. >> this is just around the corner, and it's going to destroy the economy and inflation has not ticked up. it's been low for the past few years. you say maybe a little inflation wouldn't be bad for the economy right here. kind of a counterin
obama in his first offer to congress proposed some slight, you know, stimulative measures. republicans immediately scoffed at it and dismissed it. skeptical we'll have much in the way of stimulus if and when they strike an agreement here. can we look outside of the government and congress and see any other possible sources of stimulus for this economy in the near ferm? >> steve, i like the humor around the group, and i think it's a slightly schizophrenic time. i think one can be deeply...
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right now we're look at a stalemate. john boehner call this had a stalemate earlier today. president obama doesn't have any specific plans that the white house is reading out to talk to congressional leaders, but they say he will remain in contact with him in the coming days. >> kristen welker at the white house. thank you vyou very much. now to governor ed rendell. the optics of the president in the burbs is interesting. why did he choose the suburbs for this fight? >> these are traditional swing voter, voters who decide elections in pennsylvania. right now pennsylvania statewide elections are decided in the philadelphia suburbs. they're a decent demographic. not by any means poor people, but not rich people. they are the heart of the middle class, spexactly who the presidt is talking to. >> let's talk more about this proposal by the president. i want to just play a quick clip from harry reid from earlier in the week. here's what he had to say. >> remember we've already done more than a billion dollars worth of cuts. we've already done that. so we need to get credit for th
right now we're look at a stalemate. john boehner call this had a stalemate earlier today. president obama doesn't have any specific plans that the white house is reading out to talk to congressional leaders, but they say he will remain in contact with him in the coming days. >> kristen welker at the white house. thank you vyou very much. now to governor ed rendell. the optics of the president in the burbs is interesting. why did he choose the suburbs for this fight? >> these are...
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right now we're seeing the exact opposite. president obama is sticking firm with what he offered in his budget release, or at least in his opening bid and boehner is kind of chasing over obama with more or less compromised proposals saying, why won't you work with me, give more, sacrifice more? look, we're early here and most of the people i talk with in washington are saying we're not going to get deep into this until mid-december at least. if we do a process of kind of incrementally coming from in between the two proposals, you could very easily imagine between obama and boehner on tacks is $1.2 trillion. that's where they end up on mandatory spending, 750. that wouldn't be a shocker either. boehner's opening bid here is not the bid of the side in the stronger position. it's a side desperately trying to get the press to compromise. >> now, michelle whark we don't see in the counteroffer is extension of payroll tax cut, extension of unemployment, raising the debt ceiling. none of this is in their counteroffer. and bill kristo
right now we're seeing the exact opposite. president obama is sticking firm with what he offered in his budget release, or at least in his opening bid and boehner is kind of chasing over obama with more or less compromised proposals saying, why won't you work with me, give more, sacrifice more? look, we're early here and most of the people i talk with in washington are saying we're not going to get deep into this until mid-december at least. if we do a process of kind of incrementally coming...
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is right in the short term. right now it's the postures pr phase of the entire negotiations, but we're probably going to see the negotiations start in ernest around middle september, close to the christmas holiday season. at that point i wouldn't be surprised if president obama, john boehner, and other key folks are actually locked up somewhere in maybe camp david, maybe at the white house. that's when the big talks will start. not now but in the next couple of weeks. >> back to the power move as it's described by speaker boehner. who are the strongest allies. we've seen paul ryan all but vanish here other than when we put the picture up on the committee and who is on it. who are the allies supporting speaker boehner that are team players? >> there was a criticism in the suspicion about a year ago that even some of john boehner's top deputies weren't always on board. that came about during the debt ceiling debate of 2011 where there was a lot of suspicion where eric cantor the house majority leader was on the sa
is right in the short term. right now it's the postures pr phase of the entire negotiations, but we're probably going to see the negotiations start in ernest around middle september, close to the christmas holiday season. at that point i wouldn't be surprised if president obama, john boehner, and other key folks are actually locked up somewhere in maybe camp david, maybe at the white house. that's when the big talks will start. not now but in the next couple of weeks. >> back to the power...
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in the polls right after that was really real. i mean, that was another thing that was very different between the two campaigns. i feel the obama people were much more realistic about the numbers, what the numbers really were, as compared to the romney campaign. >> what do you make of that, the fact -- again, we see the pattern of tactical answers to what seem to be terrible statements about half the country, 47%, not being this guy's responsibility. >> right. i mean, i think in fairness these questions were tactical questions. this was a forum about the nuts and bolts of why they did this or that, but i thought interestingly, i agree with susan, the obama campaign was saying that even though things looked a little bit better for them, they thought it was only a temporary thing. they thought they were only getting some of the independents temporarily. we saw that after the first debate things switched back very quickly. the obama campaign thought it was a good moment for them only because it was a bad moment for mitt romney. this
in the polls right after that was really real. i mean, that was another thing that was very different between the two campaigns. i feel the obama people were much more realistic about the numbers, what the numbers really were, as compared to the romney campaign. >> what do you make of that, the fact -- again, we see the pattern of tactical answers to what seem to be terrible statements about half the country, 47%, not being this guy's responsibility. >> right. i mean, i think in...
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obama's fingerprints on a deal this year. if mr. obama won't agree to these demin muss reforms republicans should let mr. obama own the debt crisis he has done so much to create. conservative commentator bill crystal says they're making a dangerous gamble. >> republicans are at risk in my view now of looking like they're defending, keeping the current tax rates for the wealthy. end of the day president obama is selling a simple message, i want to keep taxes low for middle-class americans and republicans look like -- i'm worried are in the position offiof ing -- looking as fe the don't care about middle class. >> joining us is the sage of capitol hill, boat shoe enthusiast and celebrity doppelganger, nbc's luke russert. >> good day. happy monday. >> thank you, luke. it's an exciting time on capitol hill my friend. i want to focus first on the gop. is the party coming together, coalescing around something, anything, relating to the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think they're coalescing around anything it's for speaker boehner to continue t
obama's fingerprints on a deal this year. if mr. obama won't agree to these demin muss reforms republicans should let mr. obama own the debt crisis he has done so much to create. conservative commentator bill crystal says they're making a dangerous gamble. >> republicans are at risk in my view now of looking like they're defending, keeping the current tax rates for the wealthy. end of the day president obama is selling a simple message, i want to keep taxes low for middle-class americans...
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many ways you're right. last week i was covering these protests at walmart and i interviewed numerous walmart workers who said we've been there three years, five years, ten years, making $8, $9, $10, $11 an hour. you just put up that number. at costco, if you work there 4 1/2 years you're making generally $20.50 an hour. and then they kick in another $4,000, $5,000 to your 401(k). an amazing thing is the typical costco worker there 4 1/2 years is making as much as the typical walmart assistant store manager. >> steve greenhouse, "new york times." great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay right with us. >> it's over. >> no more twinkies? >> this is it. >> hostess executives demand huge bonuses while 18,000 people get fired. congressman jim mcdermott responds, next. >>> gdp is up, and unemployment is down. and this congress is the most unproductive in history. we'll break down the numbers. >>> and congressman louie gohmert g
many ways you're right. last week i was covering these protests at walmart and i interviewed numerous walmart workers who said we've been there three years, five years, ten years, making $8, $9, $10, $11 an hour. you just put up that number. at costco, if you work there 4 1/2 years you're making generally $20.50 an hour. and then they kick in another $4,000, $5,000 to your 401(k). an amazing thing is the typical costco worker there 4 1/2 years is making as much as the typical walmart assistant...
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president obama is selling his economic agenda and using all the right tools. the president was surrounded today by middle class taxpayers at the white house as he pushed for an extension of the tax cuts for income below $250,000. he quas quick to highlight the break in the ranks with the republicans. >> i am glad to see, if you've been reading the papers lately, that more and more republicans in congress, seem to be agreeing with this idea that we should have a balanced approach. so if both parties agree we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. >> president obama isn't talking about some moderate republican or some blue dog democrat, he is talking about conservative republican oklahoma congressman, tom cole. cole is the first republican to openly call for agreeing to middle class tax cuts. >> we all agree that we are not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should just take them out of this discussion right now. continue to fight against any rate increases, continue to try to work
president obama is selling his economic agenda and using all the right tools. the president was surrounded today by middle class taxpayers at the white house as he pushed for an extension of the tax cuts for income below $250,000. he quas quick to highlight the break in the ranks with the republicans. >> i am glad to see, if you've been reading the papers lately, that more and more republicans in congress, seem to be agreeing with this idea that we should have a balanced approach. so if...
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that's right. tone. the fastest knew right wing gunslinger in texas, senator elect ted cruz explaining it this way. up want to know why obama won 75% of the hispanic vote, tone on immigration contributed but i think far more important was the 47%. oh, yeah, the big romney call for self-deportation had nothing to do with it. nor did the gop's slew of other extremist position on immigration. and then there's mr. on-air meltdown himself, karl rove, the former gop king-maker. why not just come right out and call him the man who blew through $300 million? he said in his speech, he's no longer suicidal that president won. well, that's a relief. now mr. rove is just, quote, despondent. and here's his new theory on why they lost. what splinters the republican party is intolerant and judgmental language and an unwillingness to acknowledge differences. so the big mystery the republicans have figured out their party just sounds to me is about their language. it's about their tone. nothing about their far right poli
that's right. tone. the fastest knew right wing gunslinger in texas, senator elect ted cruz explaining it this way. up want to know why obama won 75% of the hispanic vote, tone on immigration contributed but i think far more important was the 47%. oh, yeah, the big romney call for self-deportation had nothing to do with it. nor did the gop's slew of other extremist position on immigration. and then there's mr. on-air meltdown himself, karl rove, the former gop king-maker. why not just come...
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he is as hard right as rand paul. he's going to look a little -- >> i'll bet you a dollar on something like this he's going to be up there standing next to barack obama signing a deal. >> the other problem as jim demint is leaving, i'm leaving the senate a better place than when i came in. a senate with more democrats. >> very good point. >> a senate without sharron engle and christine o'donnell. >> do you want a governing party or ideologically pure party. now he's going to be unbound without any, you know, sort of guides on his statements to say whatever he wants and make it harder for them to have a governing majority in the senate. >> chairman steele, you get the last word here. >> the reality for the party, in light of everything that was just said, is simplies this, you can hang your hat on that ideological hook and stand and stand there and fight for the purity on the mountaintop, but the reality is, elections. and in two years, a lot of folks are going to be up for elections and in four years another president
he is as hard right as rand paul. he's going to look a little -- >> i'll bet you a dollar on something like this he's going to be up there standing next to barack obama signing a deal. >> the other problem as jim demint is leaving, i'm leaving the senate a better place than when i came in. a senate with more democrats. >> very good point. >> a senate without sharron engle and christine o'donnell. >> do you want a governing party or ideologically pure party. now...
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has obama ended his war on whistle blowers? that's next. ♪ ♪ >>> all right. this week president obama signed the whistle-blower protection act, a genuinely landmark piece of legislation that both expands and restores a number of protections for whistle blowers. the bill, which has been fought for by whistle-blower rights organizations for over a decade passed both houses of congress by unanimous consent and was signed on tuesday. it was left relatively untrumpeted by the white house. up until now the obama administration's record on whistle blowers has been problematic. as they highlighted in an august document defending the administration's record on leaks, they have prosecuted twice as many cases under be the espionage act as all other administrations combined. the obama administration's history of aggressively prosecuting leakers has dissturkd lawmakers and activists from the left and right because of the essential role of whistle blowers in rooting out malfeasance. barack obama has managed to both prosecute a record number of leakers and sign genuine conc
has obama ended his war on whistle blowers? that's next. ♪ ♪ >>> all right. this week president obama signed the whistle-blower protection act, a genuinely landmark piece of legislation that both expands and restores a number of protections for whistle blowers. the bill, which has been fought for by whistle-blower rights organizations for over a decade passed both houses of congress by unanimous consent and was signed on tuesday. it was left relatively untrumpeted by the white...
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so on the one hand, what the president is doing right here is sort of old news. presidents asking the public to bring the campaign beyond the election, to get their supporters involved in achieving the policy they want. on the one hand, presidents do that. this has been done before. this president in particular has done it a lot. on the other hand, after this re-election campaign, this may be tote little uncharted territory. nobody has ever had the kind of high-tech, robust connection to the individual human americans who voted for them that this president has. technology has afforded this president an ability that we have not seen before in terms of how it plays out in american politics. what remains to be seen is what he is able to do with that. joining us now gene robinson, an msnbc political analyst. great to see you. thanks for being here. >> great to be here, rachel. >> what do you think of the president's strategy to take this fight to the public? he has done this before. is this the right kind of fight? is this the right time to do it? >> well, it makes s
so on the one hand, what the president is doing right here is sort of old news. presidents asking the public to bring the campaign beyond the election, to get their supporters involved in achieving the policy they want. on the one hand, presidents do that. this has been done before. this president in particular has done it a lot. on the other hand, after this re-election campaign, this may be tote little uncharted territory. nobody has ever had the kind of high-tech, robust connection to the...
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. >>> coming up, what went right for the obama campaign? we don't usually ask that question a whole lot around these parts, but straight ahead, new revelations on what david axelrod himself found surprising about the way 2012 turned out. details on that after the break. this is msnbc. why do toys for tots and hasbro trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for generations. so it's no surprise millions have chosen an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help cover some of the expenses medicare doesn't pay.
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>>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports" line in the sand. president obama warns republicans not to create another debt ceiling crisis as a tactic in the budget talks. >> that is a bad strategy for america, it's a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. >> the speaker says the president's opening bid couldn't even pass the democratic led senate. boehner is ready for a sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. >> a rare senate appearance, by former majority leader bob dole wasn't enough to win over republican support for a treaty promising equal rights for people with disabilities. we'll talk with the leading sponsor john kerry about what he called one of the sadsest days of his long senate career. >> this vote is to test whether the senate will stand up for those who cannot see or hear and wheth
>>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports" line in the sand. president obama warns republicans not to create another debt ceiling crisis as a tactic in the budget talks. >> that is a bad strategy for america, it's a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. >> the speaker says the president's opening bid couldn't even pass the democratic led senate. boehner is ready for a sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and...
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you can see what they're looking at. >> right. you know, the one that -- he's not in this picture, but what jumps in my mind is the criticism that chris christie got over saying nice things when president obama went up to new jersey to tour the devastation. i just think the seriousness that's conveyed in this picture, i almost never say this. there are things in which politics takes a very far back seat. this is one of them. >> take a look at the next picture. we were talking a few minutes ago about possible cabinet choices. there's dennis mcdone noug on the right and jack lou is if he's the treasury secretary and tom lon lan, the national security adviser. the president is so comfortable with these insiders. these are great pictures by pete suza. look at air force one. the president is in marine one coming in behind. there's air force one that's a wonderful picture. finally, cabinet secretaries signing their own pictures. leon panetta and secretary chu and hillary clinton signing cabinet photos. thanks so much. chris, before you
you can see what they're looking at. >> right. you know, the one that -- he's not in this picture, but what jumps in my mind is the criticism that chris christie got over saying nice things when president obama went up to new jersey to tour the devastation. i just think the seriousness that's conveyed in this picture, i almost never say this. there are things in which politics takes a very far back seat. this is one of them. >> take a look at the next picture. we were talking a few...
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americans would blame congressional republicans if no deal is reached and 34% would blame president obama. i don't think grover is going to turn that around. >> no, i don't think grover is going to turn that around and i don't think that he's right that tea party 2 will dwarf tea party 1. >> he is so wrong. >> but i do think that there is true to the fact that there is already a backlash from the ultra right, grassroot tea partyiers that are still out there upset with boehner over his initial position, which is still quite far to the right, as you and ryan talked about in the last segment, doesn't even include any increase in the top tack rates at all. it still focuses on these magic, you know, reductions of loopholes and deductions that we've never heard anyone from mitt romney or anyone else be able to actually describe. >> let's listen to something that tim geithner said, his description of the republican's problem. >> they are in kind of in a tough position now and it's going to be -- it's obviously a little hard for them now and they are trying to figure out where they go next and we
americans would blame congressional republicans if no deal is reached and 34% would blame president obama. i don't think grover is going to turn that around. >> no, i don't think grover is going to turn that around and i don't think that he's right that tea party 2 will dwarf tea party 1. >> he is so wrong. >> but i do think that there is true to the fact that there is already a backlash from the ultra right, grassroot tea partyiers that are still out there upset with boehner...
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and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that may be right for you. >>> finally, president obama and house speaker john boehner broke their silence today, they actually spoke on the phone. >> not much came of it, and they are not any closer to coming to an negotiation. the administration is ready to go off the cliff if is comes to that. so let's talk about the politics involved with paul bigala. hello, gentleman, paul, you have the treasury secretary saying today they're absolutely prepared to go over the cliff if it comes to that if the republicans don't give on raising tax rates, isn't that a pretty politically risky game? >> frankly i think it's real. the president campaigned. the sticking point is the race. they say upper incomes should pay -- the president says he will veto it, and i'm quite sure he does. he said i'm not going to budge, period, and republicans will, you watch. it may be after we go off the cliff, i hope not. >> doesn't it come back to bite the president? >> i think not if you look at the polling today, but he's going to do it. the republicans will have to move o
and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that may be right for you. >>> finally, president obama and house speaker john boehner broke their silence today, they actually spoke on the phone. >> not much came of it, and they are not any closer to coming to an negotiation. the administration is ready to go off the cliff if is comes to that. so let's talk about the politics involved with paul bigala. hello, gentleman, paul, you have the treasury secretary saying today they're...
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instead he offered to give up just one of his new powers, vaguely worded right to take all necessary measures to affect the country. he said he would give up the other powers once the referendum had taken place. also yesterday, president obama telephoned president morsi to express his deep concern over the violence and deaths that have occurred. he also urged president morsi to have a dialogue with the opposition without any preconditions. for "cbs this morning," holly williams, cairo. >>> in syria this morning, rebel troops declared the airport in damascus to be a fair target, warning civilians to stay away. growing concern that syria's government to use chemical weapons. hillary clinton joined her russian counterpart. this morning, elizabeth palmer reports, hillary clinton says there are no easy answers. >> meetings yesterday were important but just the beginning and added nobody should believe it represented a breakthrough. clinton was more frank on president bashar al assad's lack of a place in seary's polityria future. >> every syrian must be included in this process for a new a
instead he offered to give up just one of his new powers, vaguely worded right to take all necessary measures to affect the country. he said he would give up the other powers once the referendum had taken place. also yesterday, president obama telephoned president morsi to express his deep concern over the violence and deaths that have occurred. he also urged president morsi to have a dialogue with the opposition without any preconditions. for "cbs this morning," holly williams,...
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"the situation room" begins right now. >>> happening now, president obama says we're out of time for anything but a down payment for solving the nation's spending crisis. >>> amid fears, the government may resort to chemical weapons, nato says yes to turkey to giving them patriot missiles. we'll talk to the former british prime minister, tony blair. >>> as they await a new heir to the throne, the british consider changing the rules about who can become king or queen. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with president obama's latest ideas for getting past the standoff with house republicans. he now says there isn't enough time left to do a comprehensive deal, including tax reform, fixing medicare. so he wants congress to raise tax rates for the wealthy right now and putting off the hard work to next year. they have 28 days left to make a deal before the country hits what's called the fiscal cliff. that's a combination of across the board tax increases for everyone, coupled with cuts in spending like defense, education, health care, and housing assistance. le
"the situation room" begins right now. >>> happening now, president obama says we're out of time for anything but a down payment for solving the nation's spending crisis. >>> amid fears, the government may resort to chemical weapons, nato says yes to turkey to giving them patriot missiles. we'll talk to the former british prime minister, tony blair. >>> as they await a new heir to the throne, the british consider changing the rules about who can become king...
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i hope, obama, if you're listening right now, you have compassion for everybody out here. >> reporter: recognition, even on this day, their new right fragile and uncertain. now, it it may get a little more certain in days to come. colorado before january 5th is supposed to approve, and the governor is going to sign off on their initiative legalizing marijuana there as well. they're slightly different but mainly the same in the way they treat it, and most proponents feel that once two states do it, the cat is out of bag, and you're going to see many states rushing into the marijuana game. wolf? >> thanks very much, miguel. let's go right over to the white house. the president and first family are getting ready to light the white house christmas tree. let's listen in. >> happy holidays to you, mr. president. >> is it time? >> i think it's time. >> i think it's time. >> for the big button. let's count it down, everyone. >> i hope everybody's ready. we've got to do the countdown. starting with five. five. four. three. two. one. ♪ ♪ >> merry christmas, everybody. ♪ >> nice moment eve
i hope, obama, if you're listening right now, you have compassion for everybody out here. >> reporter: recognition, even on this day, their new right fragile and uncertain. now, it it may get a little more certain in days to come. colorado before january 5th is supposed to approve, and the governor is going to sign off on their initiative legalizing marijuana there as well. they're slightly different but mainly the same in the way they treat it, and most proponents feel that once two...